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Coleen
#1 Posted : Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:22:09 PM(UTC)
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Customer goes to page for a product and chooses color and other attributes, adds to cart. Customer while in cart decides to change the color and clicks on the product name,picture or description in the cart. Customer is taken back to the product page but none of the options previously selected are there as is the norm for carts.


Is this by design?
Chris Dittmeier
#2 Posted : Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:38:23 PM(UTC)
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Do you mean that the choices for colors are not there or are you looking for the previous choice to be shown and edited?

It isn't possible to tell that the customer meant to edit the previous choice or wants another one of the same item when they clicked on the image in the cart. That would require an "EDIT" button placed in the cart only for items with choices. This isn't OOTB.
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Coleen
#3 Posted : Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:45:43 PM(UTC)
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Chris, I'd prefer then to see the image and description isn't clickable at all. An edit button would also be nice...as a shopper that's what I'm accustomed too.
Chris Dittmeier
#4 Posted : Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:55:45 PM(UTC)
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If the product was down through many sub-categories, such that it might be more time-consuming to find it again, having a link back to the product isn't a bad thing if it is something that people might want a second one of, or to go back a read some more details about it.
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pbannette
#5 Posted : Wednesday, December 19, 2007 5:41:06 AM(UTC)
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Hello,
I posted about a year ago that BVC needed an edit button in the cart, the same as other carts that have functionality to edit options. The feedback was that everyone agreed, but nothing was done.
Clicking a picture is not intuitive to edit options.
As the original post here indicates, when someone wants to edit an existing option that is in the cart all those options should show when going back to do the edits. This is how all other carts work. This is very important for products with many text field options. Not sure if C saw the problem with text fields or just drop-down options.
I thought it used to do this-maintain options when updating.
Unfortunately, I can't test anymore since I don't use the cart due to the delay in kitting.


Bob
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, December 19, 2007 9:03:36 AM(UTC)
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I tested this on our stores here, and it is working. What product template are you using?
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Coleen
#7 Posted : Wednesday, December 19, 2007 9:23:09 AM(UTC)
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BV 2004 product template.

You can check it out on any product.
MitchA
#8 Posted : Wednesday, December 19, 2007 9:37:32 AM(UTC)
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SP2, click on item in cart and go to the product page, the "Add to Cart" button changes to "Save Changes". The choices previously selected were shown on the product page.

I would like a "Go back for another?" button at each product on the cart page though. Would be easier on the shopper than retracing his steps. Of course, supermarkets put the dairy section at the rear of the store for a reason.
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Coleen
#9 Posted : Wednesday, December 19, 2007 9:41:11 AM(UTC)
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Just checked ours with the BVC5 template...does the same thing. Is this a change in Sp3 ?
Chris Dittmeier
#10 Posted : Thursday, December 20, 2007 12:48:32 PM(UTC)
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My comments were not based on verification of the issue, just trying to understand the problem.
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Coleen
#11 Posted : Thursday, December 20, 2007 3:40:54 PM(UTC)
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Totally understood...I wasn't even sure it was a problem. Apparently it's something else not quite right.
jetheredge
#12 Posted : Friday, December 21, 2007 11:18:19 AM(UTC)
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Are you seeing the LineItem id being passed in the url when you click from the cart back to the product page?
Justin Etheredge
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Coleen
#13 Posted : Friday, December 21, 2007 3:50:35 PM(UTC)
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Justin, stock 3 or 3B2 stores have the same bug.

Create a product, custom url, minimum quantity, 1 product modifier which is color with options red and blue
Go to product page, add it to the cart with Blue selected (red is first on the list). Once in the cart click on the product, you get dropped back on the product page with no information carried back.

I'm sure it's the same in Sp 3.1

Absolutely stock installs, fresh DB, brand new test stores...so it's not something we've done, it's stock behavior. I think most all of us would consider this a major bug.
pbannette
#14 Posted : Friday, December 21, 2007 4:18:18 PM(UTC)
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C,
Have you tried with text input fields to see if the text is also lost when going back to the product to edit the text?
Thanks,
Bob
Coleen
#15 Posted : Friday, December 21, 2007 5:02:48 PM(UTC)
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Everything is lost. It loses track of anything entered into text area boxes as we use those fields. A week or so ago we had people clicking back and forth and we couldn't figure out why. What they end up doing is abandoning the cart entirely. Some of our products require 5-7 selections. Right now stock bvc5 forces a customer to:

1. recognize that this cart functions differently than what they are acccustomed to at amazon, target etc and does not carry back the selections when they click on the item
2. In recognizing 1 the customer has to go to the cart page by finding the cart icon and DELETE the product they may just want to change one item on
3. Navigate back to the page of the product they like
4. Re-input all the information to just change something as simple as a color.

In short 99% of your customers will just leave and go somewhere else. We had no idea this was going on until a trusted long term customer pointed it out as a major usability issue. It explains a lot of wasted CPC conversions 10-15 days ago. We could literally watch people via chat going back and forth between pages 4 or 5 times, then they'd just leave. They shouldn't have to spend 3 minutes deleting and clicking just to change a shirt from red to yellow...this is silly.

I'm confused as to what the purpose of having the items in the cart being clickable.

I have not tested but others tell me 2004 was not like this and functioned properly.


Bob to be concise, clicking the picture or text doesn't matter, it still just dumps the customer back to a blank product page with no options carried back.
pbannette
#16 Posted : Friday, December 21, 2007 5:57:57 PM(UTC)
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Thanks C,
I originally bought BVC due to the ability to edit the options after putting into cart (had to click on product image or text link). I have up to 10 text fields for personalization. If someone made a spelling error, they would be able to correct it without starting all over again.
The way it should work, like other carts, is that clicking on the image would take you back to the product page to purchase the item again. But, there would be a button in the cart next to the product that says: edit options. This would take you back to the product page (I have also seen pop-ups-with just the options) to change the options and the add to cart button would now say "update".
I have not been keeping up with BVC5, but it looks like with all the patches and service packs, something got changed.
Looks like you have a time frame when something happened. Does it coincide with a patch or hotfix?
I have a different cart (not BVC) and also watch people going back and forth, but this, I think, is because they are not accepting cookies. The cart remains empty after adding an item.
Hope you get this sorted out.
Coleen
#17 Posted : Friday, December 21, 2007 6:52:00 PM(UTC)
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Justin, you didn't test it with a rewritten/custom url. I just ran the tests on Sp3.1 fails every time on every selector if the url is specified on the product page. Remove and let the program decide the url and it's fine and even Bob's text fields work fine.

This is a major bug, please get out a hotfix next week if at all possible.

Thanks
Coleen
#18 Posted : Friday, December 21, 2007 8:20:16 PM(UTC)
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Ticket was submitted to BV so they'll be fully aware. This bug is in SP 3.1 which is unfortunate.
Coleen
#19 Posted : Saturday, December 22, 2007 12:54:49 PM(UTC)
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We browsed some of your stores last night with custom urls and choices/modifiers, in every case the problem was duplicated so it's a bug. The key is a custom url.
Coleen
#20 Posted : Friday, January 11, 2008 1:26:42 PM(UTC)
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Been 3 weeks guys, we getting closer to a fix? We're all losing money.
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