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sternyy
#1 Posted : Tuesday, March 31, 2009 8:45:25 AM(UTC)
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I really like this. You can select your options from the text where it says "Choose". Any easy way to implement this into our stores?


http://store.originalskateboards.com/custom35longboard.aspx



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#2 Posted : Tuesday, March 31, 2009 10:34:46 AM(UTC)
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Are you asking if you can make "Choose XXX" as the initial text value of the dropdowns? If so, yes. You just set that choice as the "NULL" choice.
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, March 31, 2009 11:04:16 AM(UTC)
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Aaron, I think he's looking for the drop-down choice to be determined by the pre-chosen default in the 'choose' text.

I don't like sending eyeballs all over the screen as on the example site - but that's easily fixed so the choices are linear and orderly.

I don't think this feature has a lot of appeal that kitting doesn't already offer. Setting up a "Best Buy" or "Industry Standards" option in the kitting list is much simpler (ootb) and easier on the shopper.
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, March 31, 2009 12:00:06 PM(UTC)
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Aaron, it on the left side under "Standard Config". You can select an option from there and it automatically updates the drop down menu.

Mitch, again its not a matter if you think it has appeal... Im not asking for your or anyone elses opinions. Im asking for only solutions. Thats the problem with this message board. People tend to shoot down other people's ideas because they don't find it valuable. Thats a shame because great ideas and solutions can come out of something like this...

Also, this has nothing to do with kitting. I have to show more information on my options in the dropdown menu because drop down menus do not wrap. So this would be a great way for customer's to select when they view more information.






Essentially, if you go to my site here: http://www.medsupplier.com/Products/Burdick-Atria-3100-EKG__1222-A31-1EK01.aspx, click on "For more information on options, click here" It then expands all the product options you can select from the dropdown menu. To make it even easier, id like to have a "choose" button next to each option and it will automatically select it in the drop down menu, and if possible, collapse the options.
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, March 31, 2009 1:08:11 PM(UTC)
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Bryan, I had tried that a ways back on a 2004 site. I have hundreds of helmets and the way that I had them presented was one helmet, 5 sizes & X no. of colors.

I had thumbnails of all of the colors that would change the large image (when clicked) to the corresponding pic, I wanted the color option box to switch to that color each time a thumbnail was clicked to eliminate the need for the customer to select it.

I've seen this on countless websites selling apparel. The most recent being banana republic, however the difference being that there are no dropdowns for sizes & colors, click color it changes to the color, click size and appends the size. Select quantity and add to cart.




Grab the source code from the skateboard site and see if you can reverse engineer the javascript?
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, March 31, 2009 1:10:48 PM(UTC)
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Ah, I get it now. :) I had a feeling that I was missing something. In fact, I didn't even see the relationship between that left column and the choice column (poor design). The short answer, as usual, is that it is doable but will require some customization. We built something semi-similar for BVC 2004 using JavaScript. You should be able to do that, though more care may need to be taken since the choices use Anthem controls.

This may be a stupid question, but have you tried using radio button lists instead of dropdowns? That should allow you to group your content directly with the choice.
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, March 31, 2009 1:25:13 PM(UTC)
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Sorry Brian, I didn't mean to suggest that the idea wasn't a good one, just that there are many ways to accomplish your goal, perhaps without spending money on custom programing or complicating the page. If kitting or radio buttons don't do it for you, that's fine.

I'm not shooting you down, I've got some products with 10 choice lists with up to 8 items each. If you've got some good ideas on presenting choices in a new or better way or a way to make it easier for a shopper to get what he wants, I'm genuinely interested.

I see the drop-down list of explanations on your EKG example. Why are you not keen on using radio buttons here? (not shooting radio buttons or your info list down, just wondering ....)
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#8 Posted : Tuesday, March 31, 2009 1:35:52 PM(UTC)
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radio buttons will push the page down and radio button descriptions cant be formatted they way i want it to.
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#9 Posted : Tuesday, March 31, 2009 3:53:15 PM(UTC)
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How about expanding radio buttons (i.e. when the text of the radio buttons are clicked the content expands)? That should be achievable with some CSS and the existing JavaScript code you're using.
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#10 Posted : Tuesday, March 31, 2009 4:10:56 PM(UTC)
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I can get the dropdown selection to change to what I want with below, but it wont call back the price like when you select it from the menu itself. I know im way off... just learning and messing around with the little knowledge i have about this stuff.




Code:

<script[b][/b] language="javascript[b][/b][b][/b]">
function changeSelect(x) {
document.aspnetForm.ctl00$MainContentHolder$VariantsDisplay$modifierTemplate1$ModifierList.selectedIndex = x-1;
}
</script[b][/b]>



<a href="javascript[b][/b][b][/b][b][/b][b][/b]:changeSelect(4)" onClick="javascript[b][/b][b][/b][b][/b][b][/b]:Anthem_FireCallBackEvent(this,event,'','',false,'','','',true,null,null,null,true,false);return true">Option 4</a>
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#11 Posted : Tuesday, March 31, 2009 7:25:54 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: "Aaron" Go to Quoted Post

How about expanding radio buttons (i.e. when the text of the radio buttons are clicked the content expands)? That should be achievable with some CSS and the existing javascript code you're using.

Id have to see what it would look like. My ordering info that expands works really well so customers know what they are getting. I wouldnt want to replace each item in the orering info as a radio button description. Now if what you are talking about is that the ordering info would expand next to the radio button description i would be interested in that.


However, I still like that my ordering info expands down, and the customer can click on a "choose" button or text next to each item that corresponds wit hthe drop down menu, and that option automatically gets selected in the drop down. Thats our ideal situation.
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#12 Posted : Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:35:07 PM(UTC)
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Bryan,
The concerns I have with an implementation like on the skateboard site are:

1. There are two very different methods of selecting a choice: a text link vs. a dropdown list. You interact with these UI elements differently. Perhaps most importantly, the dropdown list has a state, so you get a visual indicator of what you selected; the text link does not.

2. the "choose" selection button/link is completely disconnected from the thing that you're selecting.


I'd have to give some thought to the actual implementation of what I suggested. The goal would be to augment a UI convention that everybody understands.
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#13 Posted : Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:43:28 PM(UTC)
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Really nice approach of handling odd options explanations. Even comparing http://store.originalskateboards.com with your site - your idea is not confusing. Just like Aaron I was not able to understand what you are talking about looking at skateboards site only.

My idea is to simply add (Choose this) link behind each option header. When clicked the options explanation is collapsed and chosen value is selected in dropdown. But this approach requires some javascript coding.
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#14 Posted : Wednesday, April 1, 2009 9:07:05 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: "BV Customizer" Go to Quoted Post

Really nice approach of handling odd options explanations. Even comparing http://store.originalskateboards.com with your site - your idea is not confusing. Just like Aaron I was not able to understand what you are talking about looking at skateboards site only.

My idea is to simply add (Choose this) link behind each option header. When clicked the options explanation is collapsed and chosen value is selected in dropdown. But this approach requires some javascript coding.


the skateboard site is confusing, but thats the only example i had with the "choose" button. Like on my site, letting the customer select any choice from my expanding ordering information would be the best way.



That is exactly what i would like to do. Because my products have so many different and odd explanations, i need to explain them with a list. No dropdown or radio button can explain truely and exactly what the customer is getting. We used to have "Ordering Options" as a tab next to "Ordering Info" and "Specifications" but customer's never clicked on it. Our next approach is to use what we currently have, where the ordering information expands down above the drop down menu. I just started this two days ago. The next thing customer's are asking is "why cant i select an option from the ordering information the expands down?" I remember seeing this on that skateboard website and though, dang, i could use that on my site. The customer can select the option header, the ordering information will collapase, that option will be selected on the drop down menu, and the price will change accordingly.



You nailed it. Now lets get it done heh heh ;)
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#15 Posted : Wednesday, April 1, 2009 9:36:38 AM(UTC)
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btw, how much of a rip is that skateboard site off of apple.com...
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#16 Posted : Wednesday, April 1, 2009 10:04:18 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: "Matt@9BallDesign" Go to Quoted Post

Grab the source code from the skateboard site and see if you can reverse engineer the javascript?


I got it to select the option, but i cant get it to call back and change the price. however, when i hit add to cart, it does add the correct option to the cart and THEN change the price. That's where im at, i just need it to call back and reflect the correct price.
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#17 Posted : Wednesday, April 1, 2009 10:06:38 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: "Bryan" Go to Quoted Post
No dropdown or radio button can explain truely and exactly what the customer is getting.


Not to be argumentative, but it's completely doable with a radio button list, but it will take some fancy JavaScript and CSS to make it happen.
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#18 Posted : Wednesday, April 1, 2009 10:42:35 AM(UTC)
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i understand. I would have to see it live in action ya know... so far what we currently got cost nothing. The customer's love being able to see the ordering information expand. They just want to select their option from there.
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Originally Posted by: "I got it to select the option, but i cant get it to call back and change the price. however, when i hit add to cart, it does add the correct option to the cart and THEN change the price. That's where im at, i just need it to call back and reflect the correct price." Go to Quoted Post

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<SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-ansi-language: EN-US">There could be several approaches to achieve this:<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>

<SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-ansi-language: EN-US">1. Emulate callback by calling appropriate function of dropdown selection changed event. I'm not aware of anthem control because use Telerik in my projects but think this could be achieved. Here is anthem's website<o:p></o:p>

<SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-ansi-language: EN-US">2. Place some anthem hidden button on the product page. When the user chooses some option the button click is emulated. In code behind just run the code for changing prices. There have to be already one.<o:p></o:p>

<SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-ansi-language: EN-US"> <o:p></o:p>

<SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-ansi-language: EN-US">Good luck

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#20 Posted : Wednesday, April 1, 2009 11:19:28 AM(UTC)
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There are countless slide effects that you could use to expand information into view, mootools, jquery...

Aaron, let's say bryan had the radio buttons setup.

O - Selection A - [color=blue>Info</FONT>
O]Info
O - Selection C - [/color][color=blue>Info</FONT>

User]


O - Selection A - Info[/color]
This selection does something different to your product. The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.

O - Selection B - [color=blue>Info
<FONT]O - Selection C - [/color][color=blue>Info</FONT>

<FONT color=blue>[/color]</U>

Assuming it's all done via the Product Choices, where is the extra information for each option stored?


OOTB... Don't think it's possible. If stored all in the Value field, that shopping cart page is going to look really weird. Maybe, maybe not.
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