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Marcus
#21 Posted : Monday, July 6, 2009 9:18:49 AM(UTC)
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Accepting any of the three choices (email, username, account #) makes the most sense to me. Perhaps you could display the login field as "email" but you would accept any of the values with the correct password. Much friendlier that way.
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#22 Posted : Monday, July 6, 2009 8:47:35 PM(UTC)
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how about "Member Name" or "Customer ID"?

I see some sites using "Username/Customer #" as the default value of the login input. (Godaddy)
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Aaron
#23 Posted : Tuesday, July 7, 2009 8:09:30 AM(UTC)
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Why would you want to use customer number/ID as a login? That's even less memorable than a username. Just curious...
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Matt@9BallDesign
#24 Posted : Tuesday, July 7, 2009 1:45:18 PM(UTC)
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marcus made a suggestion to use "Email" as the text and accept any three ID's for the login, which I'm big fan of.


1. Email Address

2. Username

3. Customer #



I was making a suggestion about the verbiage choice. Right now, I don't think BV generates a customer number.



In my opinion, a Unique ID/Customer # plus password combo is much stronger than an email/password combo. Agree that it's less memorable, but security is pretty important. If BV can help improve or keep up with best practices for personal online security, maybe that would help us in the loyalty game with our customers. Warm and fuzzy knowing that they're safe to shop with us.



However, we as a whole, have been trained over the years to use an email address. I'm guilty of it :)



First thing I ever bought online was from Amazon and to this day my account login is the same! Thankfully, the credit card on file is expired..LOL...
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Marcus
#25 Posted : Tuesday, July 7, 2009 8:16:21 PM(UTC)
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One thought about customer numbers is that they tend to be sequential and easy to guess. Email isn't sequential but if you know one it's usually easy to confirm if the person has an account via the "forgot password" forms on almost every site on the internet. A customer created username is actually to most unique and difficult to guess but it also means that isn't easily forgotten.
john.power
#26 Posted : Tuesday, July 7, 2009 10:35:06 PM(UTC)
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Hmm..on second thought, Customer Number is very valuable where the customer is a business not an individual.
I think in practice, the initial sale may be done by an individual who is then issued (via email) their company's Customer Number for use by authorised users within the business.

This is often how customer support is done by larger software vendors. These Customer Numbers are not necessarily automatically generated except in very high volume cases.
Matt@9BallDesign
#27 Posted : Wednesday, July 8, 2009 6:47:58 AM(UTC)
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That's why I'm pushing a little bit about the customer number.... B2B world. The customer number is also closely related to the the Purchase Order Process.


Wondering if there should even be an entirely seperate checkout process for B2B...lol..

But along the lines of what marcus is saying, we, as admins, can change a username at our whim.
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sternyy
#28 Posted : Thursday, July 9, 2009 12:01:31 PM(UTC)
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never really thought about b2b checkout. we get doctors and nurses calling about what email they used all the time. i dunno, maybe a customer number might help...
Matt@9BallDesign
#29 Posted : Thursday, July 9, 2009 3:14:00 PM(UTC)
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A customer number and one password could cover an entire company of purchase officers... shipping addresses would be readily accessible in the address book and if intuitive enough, PO # could be automatic or even multiple #'s assigned in the event that certain offices or regions use unique PO's.
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john.power
#30 Posted : Friday, July 10, 2009 3:45:19 AM(UTC)
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Yeah Matt, that's the point in a nutshell, its a "one 2 one 2 many" relationship.
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#31 Posted : Friday, July 10, 2009 12:16:45 PM(UTC)
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Cliff
#32 Posted : Wednesday, July 29, 2009 4:21:41 AM(UTC)
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Aaron, this is great! I really like the look, though all the empty space on the left takes some getting used to at first glance. Nice and clean. When do you plan on releasing?

Regarding HPros' statement, I only charged for project-specific modifications, not the hours put into rebuilding the checkout itself. Much of the module I already had in the works and as I continued development I rolled those improvements in gratis, so I hope there's no confusion. It's core is mostly stock, anyway, so thank BV for the base.
Aaron
#33 Posted : Wednesday, July 29, 2009 8:48:13 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: "Cliff" Go to Quoted Post
...the empty space on the left takes some getting used to at first glance.


Agreed. The idea is that this space should be used by the merchant to address potential questions a customer may have as they are proceeding through checkout (e.g. shipping policy, return policy, etc).


Originally Posted by: "Cliff" Go to Quoted Post
When do you plan on releasing?


I've been getting that question a lot lately. :) Our core business is servicing our clients so this really hasn't been a priority. Our hope is to release this, along with a few other add-ons, in the next two months.
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john.power
#34 Posted : Wednesday, July 29, 2009 9:33:09 AM(UTC)
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Hey Cliff..welcome back.

I'm going through setting up new Merchant IDs now and following on from Marcus's comment about forcing acceptance of T&amp;Cs re chargebacks etc, having links to shipping / returns etc at checkout is virtually mandatory. So I agree Aaron, the white space won't go to waste.



Cheers

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Cliff
#35 Posted : Wednesday, July 29, 2009 3:24:55 PM(UTC)
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Agreed, and that information seems to work better to the side of the forms than on top of them. Very nice. I'll keep an eye out, then. :)
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#36 Posted : Friday, September 18, 2009 1:23:36 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: "Cliff" Go to Quoted Post

Agreed, and that information seems to work better to the side of the forms than on top of them. Very nice. I'll keep an eye out, then. :)

However you want to slice it on who did what or got paid for what, it was a project we worked on together with ideas that came from both parties. You made it public domain which I guess is okay, but in that spirit we were hoping to see the same thing done here which far as I know has not been done yet.


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#37 Posted : Friday, September 18, 2009 2:14:01 PM(UTC)
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We just launched a new site this week for BizTools that uses the latest version of our checkout. This is a completely unmodified BV store (unlike the Patio Gallery checkout shown earlier in the thread) so the checkout uses usernames instead of email addresses for account creation. We're getting close to being able to release this. Stay tuned!

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john.power
#38 Posted : Saturday, September 19, 2009 6:54:09 AM(UTC)
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