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We need the cart to calculate minimum shipping costs. What I mean by this is on our website we charge a minimum $7.99 for shipping and we are located in California. So if customer orders a 1lb item, along with our minimum $7.99 option, he than gets the following real time options: USPS Priority, UPS Ground, UPS 3rd day etc... So when the real time priority shipping option comes up it falls under $7.99 because the weight is only 1 lb and that is the real time shipping costs to our state. I obviously could increase the weight to i.e. 2 lbs but than it will give higher shipping costs under all other options and we may scare away customers that want i.e. ups 2nd day but because the weight is artificially higher now the costs is and customer will buy from our competitor with accurate shipping costs.
So how can I get the real time shipping costs to have a minimum of $7.99 (which I understand makes it no longer real time for shipping costs under $7.99). Where do I make that change in BV? Where are those fields exactly and what should I put in those fields to fix this issue?
Thanks
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You are most likely going to need to consult with a developer on this one. Basically iterate through the cost and bump up to your min value if needed. Would be ideal to have a toggle for the setting as well as having an adjustable min value. |
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Take a look at Structured Solutions' Shipping Rate Rule Providers. This is an amazing add-on for BV that allows you to create nearly any shipping logic you can imagine without writing a single line of code. We use this for nearly all of our client websites. |
Aaron Sherrick BV Commerce Toll-free 888-665-8637 - Int'l +1 717-220-0012 |
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Hi Kim and Aaron, thanks for responding so quickly. Our shipping system is fine accept for this 1 example. So right now we dont want to have to buy software to fix this. I would think in the current BV cart there should be a place to set a minimum. Aaron, your cure was to spend more money vs. fix what we have. Again, there should be same where in the BV content management a place to set a minimum on real time shipping. I have a developer that can work on it, we just need to know where he should work in the bv content managment cart. Where are the fields he needs to work on located?
Kim, I am not exactly sure what you mean by this: Basically iterate through the cost and bump up to your min value if needed. Would be ideal to have a toggle for the setting as well as having an adjustable min value.
Thanks sooo much for your help!!
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Originally Posted by: "PSWEBMASTER" Aaron, your cure was to spend more money vs. fix what we have. You're going to spend money to customize what you have, too. I suspect you should be able to have a developer to customize your shipping calculation for less than the $399 license, but it could cost you half that amount. Subsequent changes to your shipping logic will continue to cost money. At what point was it a better investment to buy the software license? |
Aaron Sherrick BV Commerce Toll-free 888-665-8637 - Int'l +1 717-220-0012 |
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Hi Aaron, do you know where the developer would go into BV content management to make the changes? That is what I am asking. My developer is going to get paid or not, he is an employee so I would rather have him do the work vs. buying a program that I really don't need. If you can assist me in telling me the developer should look that would be much appreciated!! That is all I am asking for at this point. Thanks
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For USPS, this would require modification of src\source\BVSoftware.BVC5.Shipping.USPostal\RateService.vb using VS.net
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Thank you very much!!
What about for ups? would you just replace USPostal with ups? If you know the exact string that would be very helpful. Here is the string you gave me for usps.
For USPS, this would require modification of src\source\BVSoftware.BVC5.Shipping.USPostal\RateService.vb using VS.net
I really appreciate your help!
Thanks
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In all fairness, the shipping rate rule provider is unsurpassed.
I have the same situation for a client. The rule catches any and all products from .01 - 2.99 lbs. and applies the exact charge. We then have another calculation for items over that weight. We have an additional rule for items over a certain combined weight to return a complete different rate because it's a palette. We have a rule that isolates a specific brand because there's a discount applied as there is dropship for some of them that ship from a completely different location.
For the items from .01 - 2.99 lbs. there is a minimum cost calculation and then a rate added on top based on a calcuation. Your type of situation.
We have a rule that isolates a specific brand as well as specific SKUs because there is a completely different distribution point, not dropship, for certain items because one warehouse is east coast and closer to mfg (cost is cheaper to stock there).
We have a rule that catches a set of SKUs and a specific weight of the SKUs because the shipping gets cheaper as the volume increases due to it being confined to a palette. This also lends itself to a purchasing account as incentives are provided to reduce shipping costs for larger volume orders.
We have a rule that catches oversized items and applies the correct charges. Because the cubic size is larger than ups and fedex prefers, they contend that the order should be shipped freight, as a result, ordering 3 of them would make a normal rate return 10 times what it should be because of the cubic size, but since they can be stacked inside of each other (trashcans), the actual shipping costs are affordable, will ship via normal carrier and the rule calculates this correctly.
Well worth the $399 expense and this is all done without modifications to the source code which will be overwritten when a service pack is installed. |
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Aaron and Matt...Wow! Thank you for all the kind words about the Shipping Rate Rule Providers. PSWEBMASTER..."What about for ups?" The code for UPS is not available (BV Software had to sign an agreement with UPS to not divulge the code). If you want BV Software to add this feature, you will need to submit your suggestion via the Contact page, http://www.bvsoftware.com/company/contact.aspxIf you have paid the maintenance fee, you should have access to the list of features that will be considered for the next release, https://accounts.bvcommerce.com/FeatureVoting |
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As a starting point have your developer look at BVSoftwareBVC5Core/Shipping/ShippingRate.vb
I played around with Public Function GetCopy() As Shipping.ShippingRate and got the results below setting min amount to 50 My free shipping for orders over $99 still worked fine.
Good luck.
SubTotal: $21.50 Tax: $0.00 Shipping Method: UPS Second Day Air Shipping: $50.00 Handling: $0.00 Grand Total: $71.50 |
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Kim, thank you very much!!
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