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jbailey
#1 Posted : Tuesday, December 11, 2007 12:04:30 PM(UTC)
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At the moment, when a credit card payment fails, there is no message to the customer that it has failed - just the normal receipt page. Is there a setting somewhere that writes a payment failure message to the receipt page? I cannot find one anywhere.


Jenny
Jenny Bailey
Discover IT (UK) Ltd
www.discoverit.co.uk
Surfscience
#2 Posted : Tuesday, December 11, 2007 12:08:45 PM(UTC)
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Hi Jenny, If I understand you correctly you simply need to follow the steps included in the BV5 manual in the How To's section, called 'Handling Declines'. For some reason, by default, BV doesn't handle the decline at the time the customer places the order. It does however have full provision to do this and that's what is detailed in the manual in that section.

Here's a link http://www.bvsoftware.com/BVCom...;s/HandlingDeclines.aspx

--Matt
jbailey
#3 Posted : Tuesday, December 11, 2007 12:22:13 PM(UTC)
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Many thanks for this, Matt. It is exactly what I was looking for. I even looked in workflows but missed the significance!

Actually, it still does not seem to do exactly what I want but it is better than nothing. I really want to accept the order anyway but put a message on the receipt page saying that the payment failed. This gives the opportunity to contact the customer and put through a manual transaction. The reason I am doing this is because there is a bug in the BVC payment gateway which makes certain credit card transactions fail (wrongly). We still want to collect the orders and process them manually.

Thanks for your swift response. You have pointed me in the right direction.

Jenny
Jenny Bailey
Discover IT (UK) Ltd
www.discoverit.co.uk
kliu
#4 Posted : Monday, January 28, 2008 2:41:49 PM(UTC)
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Hi Dear Support,


In fact, I also need to implement this idea, when checkout suceesfully ,it goes to thankyou/receipt page, if declined , to a error/decline message page.



Now I found in bvsoftware, if configured to be workflow's options(checkbox), it will keep show the error message when customer change his creditcard type, for example, in the begginning, he use visa, if failed, (show error message),then change to use mastercard, if also failed,(show error message), and then change back to visa, even any info is right, it also will be failed (show error message), and then always keep showing (show error message),(show error message),(show error message), this order never throgh. Some customer complain this issue for our site.



Please review this issue, it is better it can be like our ideas. ie , when checkout suceesfully ,it goes to thankyou/receipt page, if declined , to a error/decline message page. Thanks.



Kevin
birdsafe
#5 Posted : Monday, January 28, 2008 9:37:54 PM(UTC)
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The problem you will soon run into as your orders increase is you will not have the time to contact customers to get accurate cc information -- then what if you can't get it to go through and have to cancel the order? If you keep inventory, then those items have been taken away for other "paying" customers to purchase, and you may have lost a sale.

Many times a debit card may not go through when it should, or because the customer puts the wrong info, but it still shows on their online statement for up to 10 days -- so you call the customer and tell them you need to charge their card and they say, "well, I got an order confirmation that the order went through and my online statement says you charged my account."

Just giving you something else to think about -- you will end up with a lot of extra work and headaches. Best if if it is declined; if the customer really wants the order, they will call you!
kliu
#6 Posted : Tuesday, January 29, 2008 10:04:20 AM(UTC)
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Hi Joe, and Support,

Joe, sorry I cannot follow your meaning. Can you please explaim more details. Now our site have checked the options : Throw Errors on Failure? and Set Order Status on Failure?. A few of customer compaint their orders can't be through and keep show the error message in the check out page even they used the correct CC infos.

Have a good day!

Kevin
MitchA
#7 Posted : Tuesday, January 29, 2008 10:34:34 AM(UTC)
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kliu, submit a support ticket and get some help from BVC.

http://www.bvsoftware.com/Support/Default.aspx
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birdsafe
#8 Posted : Tuesday, January 29, 2008 7:56:57 PM(UTC)
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Matt -- yes, if you have it to throw an error, it will tell the customer there is a problem with their cc info (either it didn't go through or has an AVS issue) and then they can resubmit.

Kevin -- if it keeps showing an error to that customer, there is a reason -- I can't tell you how many times I've had "discussions" with customers who insist their card should go through --only, "Ooops -- silly me, I put the wrong billing address." And if it's a debit card, a DECLINED transaction will show up on their account and make them think it went through. So if you allow ALL transactions to go through, you will spend a lot time on the phone with customers.
kliu
#9 Posted : Monday, February 4, 2008 4:13:46 PM(UTC)
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Hi Dear support,


I still get some order can't be through, today I found one error in the eventlog of shoppincart as following:




[table id=ctl00_MainContent_gvEvents style="WIDTH: 100%; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 border=0]
[tr ][td vAlign=top align=middle] [/td][td vAlign=top align=left]2/4/2008 11:51:57 AM[/td][td vAlign=top align=left]System.Web[/td][td vAlign=top align=left]C:\inetpub\wwwroot\Shop\CheckoutSas.aspx(244): error BC30560: 'bvmodules_controls_sitetermsagreement_ascx' is ambiguous in the namespace 'ASP'.[ at System.Web.Compilation.BuildManager.CompileWebFile(VirtualPath virtualPath) at System.Web.Compilation.BuildManager.GetVPathBuildResultInternal(VirtualPath virtualPath, Boolean noBuild, Boolean allowCrossApp, Boolean allowBuildInPrecompile) at System.Web.Compilation.BuildManager.GetVPathBuildResultWithNoAssert(HttpContext context, VirtualPath virtualPath, Boolean noBuild, Boolean allowCrossApp, Boolean allowBuildInPrecompile) at System.Web.Compilation.BuildManager.GetVirtualPathObjectFactory(VirtualPath virtualPath, HttpContext context, Boolean allowCrossApp, Boolean noAssert) at System.Web.Compilation.BuildManager.CreateInstanceFromVirtualPath(VirtualPath virtualPath, Type requiredBaseType, HttpContext context, Boolean allowCrossApp, Boolean noAssert) at System.Web.UI.PageHandlerFactory.GetHandlerHelper(HttpContext context, String requestType, VirtualPath virtualPath, String physicalPath) at System.Web.UI.PageHandlerFactory.System.Web.IHttpHandlerFactory2.GetHandler(HttpContext context, String requestType, VirtualPath virtualPath, String physicalPath) at System.Web.HttpApplication.MapHttpHandler(HttpContext context, String requestType, VirtualPath path, String pathTranslated, Boolean useAppConfig) at System.Web.HttpApplication.MapHandlerExecutionStep.System.Web.HttpApplication.IExecutionStep.Execute() at System.Web.HttpApplication.ExecuteStep(IExecutionStep step, Boolean& completedSynchronously) ][/td][/tr][tr class=alternaterow][td ] [/td][td vAlign=top align=middle]<input id=ctl00_MainContent_gvEvents_ctl08_btnDelete title=Delete style="BORDER-TOP-WIDTH: 0px; BORDER-LEFT-WIDTH: 0px; BORDER-BOTTOM-WIDTH: 0px; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 0px" onclick="return window.confirm('Are you sure you want to clear this event?');" type=image src="http://www.everestnutrition.com/shop/BVAdmin/images/buttons/Delete.png" name=ctl00$MainContent$gvEvents$ctl08$btnDelete> [/td][td vAlign=top align=left]2/4/2008 11:51:57 AM[/td][td vAlign=top align=left]Error[/td][td vAlign=top align=left]<br>Session:0a4b0af9-e2f5-4482-87fa-5f575d465ffe<br>To:https://www.everestnutrition.com/shop/checkoutsas.aspx?siteid=200701& campid=& c=100& keyword=562 <br>From:http://1.zenerx.com/productform.html<br>User:64.89.210.225(64.89.210.225)<br>Agent:Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1)[/td][/tr][/table]

Please review it, I don't know what's reason results this error. I am using default processing workflow to place a new order. Thanks.



Have a good day!



Kevin
birdsafe
#10 Posted : Monday, February 4, 2008 6:48:55 PM(UTC)
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the "ambiguous namespace" error usually means you have an "extra" vb file somewhere, or it could mean that you have mixed .net and asp files (as it is naming an ASP file in the error -- but I would look for an additional "siteagreement.ascx.vb" file if you have customized that file at all.
kliu
#11 Posted : Monday, February 25, 2008 10:27:18 AM(UTC)
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Hi Dear Support,


Some customers still compiant that they always kept in seeing the error messege when they checkout using the creditcard info. When I checked their order/shopcart info, I found one of their orders went through and another of theirs showed a lot of payment note says duplicated transactions. I don't know why it likes this. Please review it. Thanks.



Have a good day!



Kevin
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